The CSM published by CCP

Excerpt from page 20 of the linked CCP document-

CSM REPRESENTATIVE CONDUCT

any behavior or actions considered being a material breach of the eula or tos
by a Csm representative is grounds for immediate dismissal and permanent
exclusion from all pending and future participation in the council. There are no
exceptions, regardless of the infraction. representatives are not only expected to
uphold the social contract that all society members are held accountable to, but
should also set a behavior standard for everyone else to follow.
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This sounds pretty clear cut to me. Unless we don't play by these rules anymore?

"immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion"

Policies are created to insure all players are treated fairly and equally. We can't
begin making exceptions to one without eliminating the rule altogether.

What kind of publicity will EVE receive if he or any future player does commit
suicide? The media will look back on this incident and see how the company
handeled it which could open them up for future liability.

Any player regardless of alliance affiliation needs to understand the gravity of
this situation outside of the context of Eve.

This is a situation that could end Eve.

Still, your leader is going to pay - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~

And for good reason if you have been in these threads since the start.

You may or may not be a goon alt. But many are or are goon pets that are part of the Cult. You have to accept that if you are going to wade into this even with the best of intentions.

For what it's worth, there was quite a bit of chat about it when it first happened in the E-UNI chat channel and in the Facebook posting thing underneath the stream.

Clearly the major public outcry wasn't so expedient, but then again I'm sure there were a lot of people who weren't watching the stream. Making any kind of assumption based on the timeframe when outcry started to accelerate (or that it's solely because it came after CSM election results were announced) is post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

I watched the tape. It didnt sound like he was joking.

They hold double standards and are hypocrites and liars.


After these responses to The Wis posting full on Ban of the Mittani is now required by ccp.

OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis

No not becouse of what everyone tells me what I should think.
I work when I have work come in.. I have been on the road more thien anything and trying to answer peoples question.
Today I have no work orders so more time. But still have real life things to do around the house.
And to let everyone know I do not bot. If I see a botter I will let gankers know about it.
I do multibox and love to see how far I can push it.. AT this time I am limited buy the hardware I have. One day I will see if I can go further.

Thanks all for the support and the kind words.

I think you find that because it was at an official CCP Event, being streamed to thousands of players then CCP can do what it likes.

In the grand schemes of the the EULA/TOS mean ****. If CCP want to ban you then can and will.

Some people need to realise something about the EULA/TOS, it gives CCP the right to do what ever they like, end off.

On the flip side I agree with you to a point about what goes on in game.

You didn't answer the question. Can you confirm he was botting?

The people who did see it live and were there said nothing other than how bad everyone but the WH guys was and how drunk people were.

This was not an issue untill after the announcement. Lie all you want about the timeline it doesnt change the fact that the very people outraged by this are the ones brining ever more attention to Wis and his mail as well as doing the very thing to mitani that outraged them in the first place on a much bigger level.

Sure you can. First of all there is a catch-all that allows CCP to ban anyone from the game for any reason or no reason at all. So if I walked up to Helgar and started screaming in his face about him being a ***** and ********* and &!@$&!@$&!@$&!!! he could have me banned from Eve without any problem at all. I'd have no recourse either. But that aside, there's also the requirements for being a CSM:

They are also expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM

Do you really think his behaviour constituted "carrying himself in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow", in CCP's opinion? I very much doubt it.

Its about perception.

You think it was a Joke, hence funny.

Just because you think it was funny doesn't mean other people will think its funny.

Now okay, before you argue does that mean you can't go around making jokes for fear of offending anybody, no it doesn't, not at all.

However there are some subject matters which, when address thousands of players at a official CCP Event and you are the Player Elected Chairman, you do not joke about.

I would say one of those is assisting somebody to commit suicide, especially when you take into account the current publicity in the media world wide about Cyber Bullying and how Computers Games are making kids kill people etc etc.

Perhaps the decision has been made:

http://twitter.com/#!/Darius_III_



Also:




and props for attacking alcoholics.

You mean 200 pages to push up our EVE-O post count.

Quoting because this damn thread moves to fast for people to see any responses at this point.

Pfft, I got almost 100 likes. Your e-peen is a joke.

Who really cares about likes?

Wall of Test

Despite hes effort to chill ppl whit this, its not enough. he have caused to much damage already to eve and CCP from hes action and he should resign completely and not just as Chair.

This is a weak move and means nothing if he stays on the CSM and if CCP allow him they show there true color, and its not pretty.

He twited

"LOL , **** Muamba. HeGÇÖs dead!!! #haha" he then responded to various people who tweeted back in disgust with some pretty vile stuff.

Again, he was also blind drunk at the time he was tweeting.

Also he was reported to the police by one of the people who had responded to his tweet.

He was charged and found guilty of a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars